why homestuck is problematic

ERIS My praise of Homestucks music is really part of another thing I like about the comic. (As he puts it, its about the things its about.) The story presents a modern path to revolution in which the catalyst for the overthrow of an imperialist system is not the military strongmen of old, but a young woman with social media savvy. Ardata literally has a red room esque set up, where she tortures trolls that she has caged in her hive. Likewise Mindfang's joyous rape-and-murder spree of a memoir is discussed in text (And it's never graphic. Our more overpowered characters fell to the wayside so we could tell the stories of characters who had to face a conflict or struggle to get what they wanted. Point 4: Explanation and justification are not the same. I'm part of the tumblr community and several others. I like my complaints like I like my inception, always going one level deeper. Yes it is. Why The few legitimate criticisms that arent nitpicks or blind virtue signaling arent even all that damning. 164 Followers. Eventually, she goes on to write a widely read manifesto; taking the reins of a militant revolutionary group that wears goth clown makeup. Or you read a lot of Twilight and now you cant escape allure of urban fantasy erotica with alarmingly dubious ideas surrounding consent. Shraddha Walkar, Nikki Yadav: Why the coverage of crimes against women is problematic; Shraddha Walkar, Nikki Yadav: Why the coverage of crimes against women is problematic When such murders are headlined with the term live-in, the choice of the victim to cohabitate with a partner takes precedence over the criminal act of the offender WebFollowing the incident, What Pumpkin, Hussies former Homestuck production company (which he has since left), threatened to sue Sarah Z. Yo! In Candy, shes this pushy, horny, clueless woman with alarmingly dubious ideas surrounding consent, who pushes her friends away and pressures Dave in marrying her, preventing him from living out the fact that hes gay. In response, the YouTuber made a video about their threat, which according to the legal document shared by the Sarah Z cited false, speculative claims, propelling the matter even further into the public theater. The only reason people are so attached to the original joke is because it was taken away from them. As underage drinking is a touchy subject for myself personally im not very inclined to go through the route in detail but, underage drinking. I see that like "are you crazy? Ant colony optimization Can't say I ever noticed. A confirmation hes referring to Kanayas lesbian identity as the fetish he remarked from above. The protests began, police stations started burning down, and it all felt pretty surreal, because Id just spent a month writing about situations that looked a lot like this. I think it's the perfect example of the dissonance between Hussie and the fandom. And then, on Earth, sometime in the far future, these immortal snake alien things give birth to another alien who will eventually become the Lord English and he plays the game too. I say this not to deride bi women but to state that it is uncomfortable to base the character who's whole deal is being a lesbian to the point her name phonetically is L word to be based on a bi woman. Who is this detective? Gross Margin. Example: MLP makes money not only by merchandising but also by ad sales, etc. Pyscholonials isnt about Andrew Hussie and it isnt a Homestuck sequel. Homestuck is also filled with blind jokes. Music is even baked into the comics mechanics. Just don't think it's safe for your thirteen-year-old brother just 'cause the protagonist is the same age xDD. Cyberduds. To feel what its like to be faced with a behemoth of a story and to be forced to choose: Meat or Candy, one path or the other. Dirk is Homestucks ultimate villain. WebAnswer random questions and Ill give you a Lana del ray lyric that will reveal a deep truth about you. While its about revolution, its told in a refreshingly modern and relevant way. Perhaps youll click the first. Character development is important, but youre not a good author if your story is just 100 thousand words of characters dicking around and having repetitive conversations. umm?" Andrew Hussie But, there is still no ETA for everything to work normally again. From $23.00 Dance Shirt (White) *LAST CHANCE* Brunetto-4%. Hes not. The largest flaw in Terezis portrayal is that, while she is blind, she relies on superpowers that essentially eliminate her blindness and eliminate the real experiences of actual blind people, making her blindness into its own disability superpower. I honestly don't feel qualified to say. but the stance that critical enjoyment is impossible because of those aspects that don't look good today is pretty flawed. This process, known as review-bombing, has been used for both good and bad causes. Wed take turns role-playing a story together, tacking on the next action with and then. What is this threat? My ask box is always open for corrections, things I may have missed, or just general discussions of my posts. Wait, not having a shirt on is sexual now? The SFW hes the stereotype of a transman. In my case, that thing I tried to copy when I started out was Homestuck. And thats always something worth giving credit for, in my book. I'm not really interested in Thermian arguments; trolls aren't real, Hussie created them that way for a reason. Constantly seeking out fetishistic situations and sexualizing characters in a fantasy story as well reading straight up bullshit from in-between the lines. I cant put them on a scale from 1 to 10 and I cant recommend anyone read them or not. The difference should be obvious, Devils advocate here: She's small, not neccesarily young. In this sense, fandom itself, with examples like Homestuck, was the precursor to the asymmetrical relationships that have come to characterize so much of online life. In any case, for Tavros and Terezi, I will discuss separately their problematic treatment both inside the web-comic and in the fandom. Media analysis, fiction, and the art of writing the perfect story. Please also read our Privacy Notice and Terms of Use, which became effective December 20, 2019. However, back when HS was being written, it was OK to say the word. And he called himself on it too. And thats not even touching anything a part of Homestucks spin-off game, Hiveswap. About 8,000 pages. that's all i'm saying. This is not so much directed at you, fiveforchaos, but since this sort of misconception comes up frequently I figured I might as well step in. And thats about how Ive come to regard all fandoms now.. I already break the fourth wall, numbnuts! She also rapes Jake. Tavros treatment in homestuck is also disgusting, in all honesty. Very much like a guy with a fat fetish isn't too likely to reject a thin girl by saying "Sorry, I am just this HUGE chubby chaser, so I must decline Not that any of this changes how we view Kanaya. https://www.homestuck.com/story/5571 https://www.homestuck.com/story/5701 https://www.homestuck.com/story/5732. According to multiple reports, many users of DISH network services are facing issues during the authentication or login process to the companys platform. His comic, Homestuck, published under the website MS Paint Adventures, followed a group of teens who accidentally brought about the end of the world with a copy of a video game. And the world ends. If it is morally wrong, I want explanations.). In December of last year, St. Paul Mayor Melvin Carter proposed raising the citys sales tax rate by one percent in order to pay for street maintenance and parks. See, I love how I can just type stuff like that and it makes sense still. and Slang to Learn Before He needs everything to be relevant, and if a few character motivations and arcs need to get bent out of shape for that to happen, so be it. Asaresult, the narrative remains incomplete and unstable, and the relevance of key events is questioned all together. God I cant stand moral guardians like that. So Im almost made to feel bad for even entertaining John/Roxy as an idea in the first place if the results were to be this disastrous for everyone involved. I asked Hussie if he thinks everyone should just log off. ._3wvjcIArtO7kKPJabZfZ9S{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px;font-weight:400;line-height:16px;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin-right:24px;opacity:0;transition:opacity .1s ease-in-out}._3wvjcIArtO7kKPJabZfZ9S._1c98ixuh4QUWO9ERiFID3p{opacity:1}.RtAsN7UrR7u51W5kaOXvp{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin-left:4px;margin-right:0}._1JRtpiobR4jYtbw-xx1tPO{border:1px solid var(--newRedditTheme-body);margin-left:-7px;transform:scaleX(-1)}._1JRtpiobR4jYtbw-xx1tPO:nth-child(2){margin-top:4px} Can I just say how loathsome the entire archetypal post of popular thing is actually terrible and heres why Like its ok to bring attention to an issue, but dont tell me how to feel. Why (Talking about sniffing Marvus) So, we are kinkshaming now? Her "whole deal is being a lesbian"? Copyright issues; unlike many, more mainstream (and powerful) content producers who kind of give convention artists alleys the big shrugaroo, a small buisness like What Pumpkin LLC, the company that sells Homestuck merchandise, does not have the luxury of being able to afford turning a blind eye to fan produced content, and is thus very strict about people selling fanmade Homestuck content. and this is the code I use "Index.blade.php" WebHomestuck has three characters with definite disabilitiesTavros, Terezi, and Solluxthough for the purposes of this article, I will focus on Tavros and Terezi as, ever since Sollux has become blind, we simply have not had much screen time with him to merit analysis In this passage, the narrator (or author, Andrew Hussie) describes Tavross experiences in the game. Dont try to make me part of some angry mob. Anyone who presides over something popular is forced to play the role of an informal cult leader, which is what it felt like throughout most of Homestucks run, and even well beyond. He said, Some online personalities will revel in that role, and actually start behaving like a true cult leader. He would commandeer a handful of characters, and I do the same. Remember how Lanque is trans? If I release a book full of just Nazi shit but end it by saying "BTW these aren't my views I was writing as a character lol" I can't use that to cover my ass for writing a book full of Nazi shit. But Hussie was ready for something new, and in his words, anti-cult.. He forces Jake to admit he loves him just to get the satisfaction of embarrassing him and destroying his heart, and he consistently and purposefully misgenders Roxy. Up until researching this post, I did not know much about ableism, and Ive learned a lot, but I am super sorry if Ive gotten anything wrong in the process of writing this. Besides, I covered my opinions on incest above. Vriska herself is a huge controversy (i.e. It's a violent as hell culture created for a single purpose: victory. WebPoint 1: Homestuck is 'problematic' in the way that many people are beginning to dislike. Im not sure if fondly is the word Id use here, but I can regard it. Hussie is a white man. Ive yet to hear from Jane fans who had to watch the character Ben Shapiro her way into supporting actual genocide of an entire race of sentient beings. So here's the deal: I've got a podcast that generally covers internet oddities. It is easy to wonder how connected the two things are, and to wonder why one of the very, very few disabled characters has to also be a social outcast. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. What Pumpkin LLC is the business in question, not Andrew himself. The single most respectful moment in Terezis portrayal is when she has the opportunity to have her blindness cured. Its fitting. Hell no. The majority of the story, other than the epilogue they are minors. Hussies apprehension of fandom and the wild projections that come with presiding over one seem appropriate given how public comments on his work ignite controversy within the fandom. Id post a sample here if reading my old work didnt literally set me on fire. All of them are real. And then the time boss totally starts wrecking up the multiverse like its no ones business. And thats the trimmed down version of the trimmed down version. Webwho were victoria winters parents. Could things have been done differently for better effect? But I am going to assume you mean the timeline Davesprite came from. Bad Projection Is Ruining the Movie Theater Experience Perhaps the epilogues are an attempt to have the reader live a moment in the life of Andrew Hussie. This magic carpet ride of analytical post-epilogue Homestuck fan content has left you feeling exhilarated and yet hungry for more. Quite a bit of it, has, unfortunately landed on rachel, who if I recall correctly, is in charge of a lot of the business decisions, or at least enforcing them. Habitat for Humanity calls this sweat equity, which is a required part of the program participants must gain hundreds of hours of volunteer work by helping build homes. Or Faygo. Any help is greatly appreciated! I read the links, and I don't see it. 13. Why You know where else that happens? I perhaps havent heard from Jane fans because they dont really exist, but you get my point. No one needs me to tell anyone this, but stories can always serve as reminders.. ), heres an approximation of just how insane that is: new writers are advised that the first book the try to publish should be around 6070 thousand words. "Babyed or harassed"? So the patient reader will forgive me for not putting more effort into recapping the story. ._1W1pLIfaIb8rYU6YeTdAk6{margin-right:6px}._1H6Meh6ZAemKxOJDOEasfK{border-radius:50%;box-sizing:border-box;height:20px;margin-left:-8px;width:20px}._1H6Meh6ZAemKxOJDOEasfK:first-child{margin-left:0}._30vlMmCcnqKnXP1t-fzm0e{display:inline-block;margin-left:-8px;position:relative} So, you are saying I can't write about people who are not me? They should have stuck with what they said. I think a lot of new authors start out by aping works they admire. Even worse, Hussie confirming dersecest to be a canon ship in a doomed timeline in the most recent homestuck book, which is better explained in this post. Maybe they exist in a doomed timeline, or as a ghost, or in an offshoot reality that got retconned and is no longer relevant. I saw a lot of promise in Johns relationship with Roxy. "Queer Eye" star Karamo Brown recently told INSIDER that he thinks the beloved film about a gay relationship, " Call Me by Your Name ," is "problematic as f---." Why Its completely immune from in-story time logic, existing in exactly one place for all of time. People generally overlook when boys are sexualized, (examples, all the shirtless art of the boys of BNHA, the entire Free series, etc.). WebHomestuck tends to congregate in large groups that can cause problems at conventions. Homestuck itself. And then there are all the people who cant shroud themselves in secrecy. Commedia Doll'Arte And she decides what gets put in front of our eyes and what doesnt. No idea who that is, I covered incest above and I am 24, so what's your point? I had no idea what Tab was, for example. Why pick them out? Press J to jump to the feed. Something went wrong. But, there is still no ETA for everything to work normally again. More detailed content warnings for The Homestuck Epilogues Please attribute any perceived bias as poor phrasing on my part, rather than a statement of opinion. There is no denying that. Are many of them flawed? /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/UsersCountIndicator.2ab8dda40f822a31d31c_.css.map*/to which I say yes. why you lookiing at my flaiir. Media can be challenging, but largely it offers a totally safe place for people to indulge, express and investigate ideas they would NEVER do in real life and therefore does NOT always reflect an individual's real life views. I'm on the same boat here. And yes, they were still in a black romance together) until like Act 6 when John starts feeling black feelings towards Terezi and suddenly it's much more wholesome than literally any other example we'd seen until then. (not sure on the proper wording for this, if theres better wording let me know and ill change it) As a result of his accident, he is constantly babyed or harassed by other characters. Homestuck is the full power of the Internet refocused into an artistic and storytelling force the likes and scale of which I havent seen attempted again. It was meant to be a joke about the character suddenly having an actual skin color instead of a pure white one. nothing you have written is debunking anything, it's just you saying you don't agree/see it. N/A. Cool post though :). Rather than being a swapped preference, it is a more exacting preference. This has of course produced some backlash within the community. In a video published in April 2021, Canadian YouTuber Sarah Z delved into the history of Homestuck and Hiveswap, with a focus on the turbulent development cycle of Hiveswap. WebWi-Fi 6E is the latest Wi-Fi technology that provides faster speeds, lower latency, and improved overall network performance. Also, (controversy incoming) in my honest opinion, as long as you don't have children, there's nothing wrong about incest. Maybe because Hussie doesn't actually speak English? He's an asshole and I can't stand him. Don't say we didn't warn you. Maybe the epilogues are in part supposed to make us feel what its like to have to balance plot-driven meat with fluffy, character-driven candy and, even after years of practice, to still feel like youve come up short. The music from this one little animation tells the story just as much as anything on screen does. From a human perspective, she's an unmistakably gay character. It aims to find out the shortest path during a salesman visiting cities below illustration. Hell, a lot of the stuff they accuse the story of, the story itself pokes fun at (such as all the accusations of pedophillia, something that Doc Scratch was openly considered creepy for in-universe) This really just feels like someone who was trying really hard to find bad things to say about the series. The flaws of each epilogue reflect the flaws in Meat and Candy as narrative frames of mind. But how much is that purpose worth? Secondly, much of what the document draws attention to are things criticised within the text. Yes, but so are the men. Okay, geez! But mainly I was relieved to see the protests happen, because it answered a more fundamental question I had before starting on this story, which was wondering whether the country had any real fight in it., And while the writer says he saw this nation-wide spark as a very positive development, he wondered if this was even a story that needed telling anymore., In the end, he decided it was. Take later. You can purchase the interactive fiction on Steam. What Is Dogfighting, Why Does It Still It wasn't even that funny! Oops. Using the silly word follies, readers can infer that whatever happened to Tavros, in his wheelchair (as readers apparently need to be reminded), they were light-hearted and amusingbecause of his disability. The video, predictably, provoked speculation over the true timeline and events surrounding the games development. I tend prefer Jade when she has as at least milligram of agency, but, again, sorry I liked her in the first place, I guess. Homestuck is honestly a sprawling epic I mean, kind of. To learn more or opt-out, read our Cookie Policy. These Fraymotifs stack when two characters use their own powers to create something new and even stronger, similar to how each characters leitmotif stacks in the music of the comic to bring the reader to higher story beats. there are pedophilic implications between Chahut who is confirmed to be basically an adult, soon to be taken off the planet and Amisia, a literal child, these were done by the same artist. After the epilogues to the story released in April 2019, the story stands at just over 1 million words. Do trolls even have races? Incest - all trolls are biologically "related" Incest isn't a problem for them. Web1,362,830. If so, then there's nothing "wrong" with that, because they had no way of knowing they are related. (peachy in bright text. READER,PLAYER].DIE();: What Kind Of The sexism accusations over the most passive class (Muse) being female. The mock content warnings that show up at the beginning of the epilogues are not mock anything and are entirely legit. No one considered it a slur yet. Post-Scratch Troll society is not presented as good. Dirk uses his position as the author to berate characters he doesnt like. Like who? The comics before Homestuck, particularly Problem Sleuth, were largely based on community inputs, and I believe certain parts of Homesutck initially were as well (this was before my time). The fact that Andrew Hussies Homestuck is terrible is an immutable fact I am stating for the record. They dont have a concept of incest and I wouldnt be surprised if they werent bothered by age Gaps either with how impersonal their mating is. The April 2019 epilogues are less a long-awaited conclusion to an epic and more the last spasms of a stream-of-consciousness-turned-webcomic that collapsed under its own weight years ago. Point is there are lots of the same character running around always. what problematic homestuck character are you Ill give credit where credit is due, and then some. Then again, depending on the atmosphere of any given moment in fandom, there may be at least as many simps projecting absurd deification fantasises on the leader..