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by groschen1936 Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:49 pm, Post Thanks to everyone for beginning my education about lever guns! .357 Maximum is a perfect starter gun for kids to learn and grow on. Why? 350 legend Oklahoma Shooters from www.okshooters.com. (Photo: Winchester) Of course, you can also get the original Winchester carbine, the Winchester 1873. That is fast. Antique (Pre-1899) Rifles - Flintlock Misc, Antique (Pre-1899) Rifles - Matchlock/Wheellock Misc, Century Arms International (CAI) - Rifles, Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Rifles (perc), Winchester Rifles - Modern Bolt/Auto/Single, Winchester Rifles - Pre-1899 Bolt/Single Shot, Century Arms International (CAI) - Pistols, Colt Automatic Pistols (.25, .32, & .380 cal), Colt Single Action Revolvers - Modern (22 Cal. There's no doubt but that the .357 Magnum with heavy bullets will do it handily up close.The .357 Maximum was an effort to give you .357 Magnum muzzle velocity at 200 meters. Not everything has to be tactically sound. The 1873 Deluxe Sporting is that classic rifle, dressed to the nines with a color-case hardened finish and checkered pistol grip. version of the .375 supermag (1.61 in.) MSRP is $1,223, but since the name on it is Marlin instead of Winchester, itll command less of a premium in-store. And of course my Marlin comes back today from the warranty repair and they still havent fixed the main issue I sent it in for. Look around on the internet. I am going to start reloading though as JHP rounds for these calibers are expensive and I am apprehensive about using the easily found round nose bullets on a tube magazine gun. We were amazed at the penetration. The chrony doesnt lie: .357 levers punch well above their weight: But it was attached to the saddle..which was (hopefully) attached to the horse. Worried about scratching that brass? Found a gunsmith who examined it, he got it working again. NEF 357 Mag camo syn stocks with camo Nikon . Nicks and marks from use in wood and finish. Since there is very little commercial availability for the .357 Rem. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-review-rossi-model-92-lever-action-45-colt/, Also not a .357, but a stunning Henry: Also, the flame proved to be hard on the rear end of the barrel, rapidly destroying the smooth taper of the forcing cone.The makers involved cleared their drawing boards and mandated corrections. Such a longer cartridge is a pipe dream until someone steps up and makes a longer revolver cylinder. I only have a little experience with .357 SIG (a friend has a Springfield XDM in said chambering) but it seems a reasonable round. Bingo. Cheap factory 158gr LRN is subsonic and stupid quiet for those that are complete hereticslike meand suppress their levers. Later, Dan Wesson Firearms made double-action revolvers, and Thompson/Center offered single-shot Contender pistol barrels. They can. I have the Winchester 1892 pictured above. Apparently it was a regular thing. As a recap on hand loads, I would suggest that anyone wishing to hunt with the .357 rifle should . I Wont be waiting on you to be relevantjust sayin. $1,050.00 (Save up to 21%) Price $825.00 H012MAW Henry Arms Henry Mares Leg Lever Rifle 357 Magnum 38 Special 5 RD 12.9" $1,133.00 (Save up to 10%) Price $1024.00 H006MML Henry Arms Cimarron 1873 Short Lever Action Rifle .357 Magnum $1,498.00 (Save up to 10%) Price $1355.00 CA271 In a handgun .357 is the upper level of my comfort zone. Springfield Armory SA-35 Pistol: Rebirth of the Browning P-35 Hi-Power. Can we get some more ideas? by Hobie Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:35 am, Post Both have threaded barrels to make them more relative and modern. 11 February 2004, 13:28 dgr416 . Looking for 170-190gr bullet loads and a plinking load for a hard cast GC/cheep jacketed bullet. Common sense Gun Safety . of Israeli Defense Forces, joins David Fortier for an exclusive interview for Shotgun News. I was favorably impressed with the .357 Max and the spectrum of .357 bullets that would optimize its versatility. We used Small Rifle primers for all load data, and they did fine with the propellants we tested. Or crushed and fermented into a crisp, dry Cider. I have seen a gun blow up (not mine) and therefore I am very careful when I reload. new No sales CA - NY - know your state laws! I have not seen the .357 atomic but know of the .375 atomic-it is a i.4 in. Mark Penrod is one. It is also more effective when used with a long gun, where it is legal to hunt with rifles. Since MSRP is only $1,069, its Winchesters entry-level lever gunbut its far from entry-level quality. It is such a joy to shoot! The .357 Remington Maximum was conceived primarily as an ultra-velocity, flat-trajectory silhouette cartridge. As a reloader, I will say that I have affection for the ease of use/reuse of straight walled cartridges and, thus, am a bit more fond of 10mm but, .357 sig certainly has merit. I own a Marlin .357 and its a beaut. 357 Remington Maximum Additional Loads Below are the all of the bullet and load recipes followed by the groups shot at distance with our 21 357 Max 1:20 Encore barrel. I had the model 19 years ago. The unnecessary cross bolt safety can easily be deleted with a Beartooth Mercantile safety delete kit for $35.00. . The world's most powerful firearm database. It shoots factory PMC 158 gr soft points into a half inch at 50 yards. It works out to about the same as a heavy loaded 38-55 in a Marlin 336. Since its a range toy for me, its never been a big enough issue for me to bump it to the top of the to-do list. 357 Remington Maximum Load Data Rechamber to .357 Maximum or rethroat .357 Magnum factory chamber: Send the TC, CVA, ORHenry BARREL ONLY, and $125 check or money order, total including UPS shipping. I much prefer .30 caliber bullets in any of those platforms. Designed to increase the range and pattern density of your favorite turkey gun. Im not particularly recoil sensitive (though getting old does suck) but from a power-to-controllability ratio standpoint, Ive always found the .357 to be the sweet spot. The 1892 was one of Winchesters rifles designed by John Browning. This allows, again, for higher velocities and energies than the revolvers made by Ruger and Smith & Wesson. My lever lust may remain unquenched. Proof-fired it and it stood up. At only 6 lbs, it can easily be carried in the handwhich you have to do since it lacks sling studs. 1,254 max in one manual . This means that hunters are able to control the firearm much better, making more accurate and effective shots. for a velocity of around 1836 fps. Kept that gun quite a few years, took it out to shoot every now and then. Rimmed cases don't play well with stacked magazines like in the 700 Remington. This is because revolvers allow a certain amount of gas to escape as the bullet jumps from the cylinder to the forcing cone, meaning lost pressure. . Dont believe me?? Yeah, what ever it is you want has a magical mystical ability of always being someplace else. Rossi makes various models starting at about $500. . 6.5 Creedmoor vs. 6.5 PRC: Which is Better? Custom barrels made by the best of the custom TC barrel manufacturers! Winchester just introduced the 350 Legend for all the people who are stuck using straight walled cartridges. This round is about the same thing as a 357 Max except for bore diameter. Me personally I will gladly take an 1892 or 1894 in .357 instead of a black rifle.. There is a fine line between hobby & obsession! Customer experience was, and still is, the primary focus, a key to the firms longevity and success. https://www.rincolnia.com/images/Public/38SPL_SUPP.mp4. Check the charts out at the bottom of the page. Loads for .357 Magnum: (Note: These are near maximum loads, you should use 10% less to start. Remington introduced the .357 Maximum cartridge in 1983 to considerable fanfare from the shooting press. A . This cartridge began the " Magnum era" of handgun ammunition. The 30A is a Marlin 336 for 70% off.). NEVER see one at any reasonable price at any LGS. Give me a blued steel finish with walnut, no plastics or laminates please!!! Ive shot the .30-30, and its fine, but man, Id love that thing in .357. So far I've shot 19.0, 20.0, and 21.0 of H110 using Remington 7-1/2 primers and a 180 XTP. I was surprised I didnt see any comments about the Henry Big Boy X. I bought this in a .357 mag at BassPro for $800 and it has the side gate for loading. Some of the smaller single-action companies produced their version. We manufacture Partition, AccuBond, E-Tip, Ballistic Tip, Custom Competition and much more. Everybody wanted to get their hands on my lever-action .30-30, and nobody who shot it was disappointed. Yup. Because many states have recently enacted hunting laws that allow for straight-case centerfire cartridges, in addition to the previous shotgun slugs only. WOW! Per ballistics charts, and generally speaking due to all the variables from different cartridge loads, a .357 Mag out of a carbine rifle barrel approaches the muzzle velocity and energy of a .44 Mag from a handgun. Not a bad option if you are living in a slave state. My Marlin feeds .38 Special just fine but has a tendency to hang up on .357 Mag rounds (no matter the bullet type, it seems to be an OAL issue.). Good time to start getting ready for the next ammo drought. In the early 1980s, the hottest thing going for competitive handgunners was IHMSA. Buy Savage 24V Series D 357 Rem Max / 20GA: GunBroker is the largest seller of Other Rifles Rifles Guns & Firearms All: 973628258. . Lack of inventory isnt relevance in modern times. Among their improvements was a revision to the receiver for their model of 1894. Notify Me When Available. (I do have a Ruger LCR that was pretty good out of the box and a 50 year old 1911 that are in the running.). In the meantime, be sure to sign the Recall. Slick set up that kept a rifle close to hand and out of sight. Save your brass and reload. Seems to me thats just about the perfect lever-action carbine caliber. Looks like they replaced my hammer with a used part and there is some marks on the front sight hood that werent there before. Good item. Ha! I wonder how the rimless version of the .357 Maximumthe .350 Legendwill fare. I think a lot of it is people who do not come from a hunting background and just want to look cool. Finding component will likely be tough though. Factory .357 Maximum ammo is no longer sold by the big manufacturers, but the folks at Starline offer new brass cases for reloaders. Taurus has redesigned this sporting pistol for performance. Made in 1988, nickel, no drag marks on cylinder, factory original box and paperwork, like new! Buy .357 Maximum SuperMag 180g Hornady XTP HP 1800 FPS 20 rounds: GunBroker is the largest seller of Pistol Ammunition Ammunition All: 972984640. . Its moderate recoil makes it perfect for smallish folks such as the ladies and folks with disabilities who simply can not stand the recoil of the various .45's. I believe Ive had more fun with my .357 Maximum barrel than any other in my T/C stable with the possible exception of the .22 Hornet barrel. lets say it was well used and not maintained. JM Browning did design a lot of the Winchester lever action rifles. Accepted Payment Methods: Returns: 3 Days Smooth as butter. Over time, Sellier & Bellot expanded its product line to include rifle cartridges and smokeless powder. And has since been dropped by everyone except TC.. New cartridge and rifle. The amount of money, time and effort and the increased lever throw places a 357 Maximum lever gun so far down my list that it will never happen for me. Its so ugly I love it. Frankly the quality was sinking fast before Remington bought them out, but they went straight off the cliff when they fired all the Marlin workers and took their worn out tooling and put their own Remington workers (with no experience building lever guns) on them. Somewhere around 7,500 guns were made. Loading your own was a matter of economic necessity for most of us, and wildcatting was very common. After the hunts are over is the best time to send barrels in for customizing! I have been thinking of adding a Henry Big Boy X in .357 to go along with my other lever guns, but Ive heard that .357 can be inconsistent regarding accuracy out of a carbine. Obviously, a longer cartridge had increased powder capacity and greater velocity potential. Single shots from Thompson/Center, Wichita and Merrill appeared on the expanding .357 Maximum market. What should the discerning collector look for in a potential buy? Night and day in service and I didnt have to wait over a month. Yes, it was an easy one to fill the bill with. Regardless of the manufacturer, most reloading books recommend you do not load bullets lighter than 158 grains. Here's the 357 Maximum story: Back in the 1980's there was a silhouette competition for pistols out to 200 yards. Last one I owned was an 1889 Marlin in .44-40. I have a old JM Marlin lever rifle in .357, Its one of those rifles that has been out there and used before I got it. No bloody wonder that Remingtons in bankruptcy again. Having fired several different types and CARRIED them in the Military, I much prefer the simple and traditional bolt-actions, levers and semi-autos that American hunters have carried for generations. Big improvement in smothness. Id tend to agree with you. NEF 357 Mag camo syn stocks with camo Nikon scope H&R 490 Topper Jr 20 ga, barrel cut to 21.5" threaded to Rem Chokes. $2.92. Never again Marlin, shouldve bought another Henry. Shooter's Reference Load Data for .357 Maximum .357 Maximum - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Lee #1 Lyman #1 RCBS #6 Recipe Type: Pistol Bullet Weight: ALL 100 gr 110 gr 125 gr 140 gr 158 gr 165 gr 170 gr 180 gr 200 gr Powder: ALL Accurate 1680 Accurate 4100 Accurate 5744 Hodgdon CFE BLK Hodgdon H110 Hodgdon Lil'Gun Joseph Von Benedikt is with Jorge Spat to learn all about it. From what I hear the Henry trigger is better though. The hammer was replaced and some work was done to help the feeding and cycling but I am still having a bolt issue. Unless they went back later to get it they never seemed to care that much. Not quite as fast but a staple item is 296/110 with 23 gr. Both cartridges can be practical for hunting midsized, and some large game. Features Sig Hard casing (2) Additonal 12 Round mag European American Armory, Windicator, Medium Frame, 357 Magnum, 4" Barrel, Steel Frame, Nickel Finish, Rubber Grips, Fixed Sights, 6Rd. Henry offers their stunningly beautiful rifles, all American-made, for substantially less than a Marlin price tag. First off, a .357 lever is almost as much fun as you can have with your clothes on. [2] Shortly thereafter, Dan Wesson Firearms and Thompson/Center Arms introduced firearms in this cartridge. Threaded barrel. I dont have a horse ..so the ring comes off. Low dollar lever gun joy is in your future. That feature was what was holding me back from buying one. #17. Larger game such as elk or black bear warrant a more substantial cartridge and hunting game on the open plains of the West requires more power and a flatter trajectory. Additionally, .357 Magnum lever action rifles can accept optics as most are pre-tapped for scopes and can easily be fit for a tactical rail. The 2350 fps 150gr .30-30 is 1850 ft-lbs of energy at the muzzle. I just picked up a Ruger #1 CHP 357mag that will be going to the gun smyth next week to have the chamber stretched to da Max. Like Chris, Doc, and Tycer said - you've already got the 35 Remington - which is, I believe the question was "does anyone make a Levergun for the 357 Maximum". The fact is, .357 lever action rifles are proven game-getters, as they are well-suited to whitetail and hog hunting in thick timber at close(r) range, inside about 150 yards. The .357 Atomic was just a .357 loaded to higher than standard pressures. .357 Mag ammo from brands like Hornady, Federal, and CCI. Then there is the 40-90 Sharps straight 3 1/4" that can be formed from Bell .405 basic cases. You can boost the Unique up to around 11-12 grains, as I recall, and your gun should handle it fine with that bullet. | They were discontinued for quite awhile and JMs were going for $1200 or more. There is a lot of muzzle flash with the Maximum. Instead of repeating all the details, Ill just post the link below. by bgmkithaca Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:32 pm, Post Browning should build a plant in Utah and make them there, as they own the rights to Winchester now. Its an entry-level model MSRP is $972, youll pay about $200 less retail but the rifle comes tapped for a scope or rail if so desired. Primos Jelly Head Choke Tube Maximum Supertight Remington 20 Ga. Primos Jelly Head Choke Tube Maximum Supertight Remington 12 Ga. Primos Jelly Head Choke Tube Maximum Benelli-beretta 12 Ga. Uberti 1873 Cattleman NM Steel 7 1/2" .357 Mag with Retractable firing pin (356550), Taylor's & Co 1892 Alaskan Black Takedown 16" Lever Action 357 Mag - NIB, 200 Round Case Underwood Ammunition .38 Special 100gr. They both have Constitutional carry! The 357 Max is generally considered to be less powerful that 35 Rem, but I don't know if you would see a difference in a 14" barrel. Its cheaper than a lot of other calibers to shoot with minimal felt recoil. Although some may not find this particular gun relevant, I think there are lots of pluses. It fails to cause antis to have uncontrollable, explosive decompression of the space inside the colon? This caliber in both the bottle neck and straight wall was a popular "high velocity" for it's day buffalo caliber. Winchester 1892 Deluxe 357 Magnum Lever-Action Rifle with 24 Inch Octagon Barrel. The big problem for me was the shape of the Contender grip which caused my hand to shake after just a few shots. While the Colt Model 601 was the first AR-15 to be mass-produced, there were several design variations that came before during the platform's development. Many people download it and get unburnt . Lube is easily made from beeswax and chassis grease. We call all major brands, calibers, and gauges of ammunition for your firearms. Model 29 and Marlin stainless 1894 in 44. Max chambering. Even if production revolvers missed the test barrel velocities by 200 fps, they produced enough muzzle velocity to achieve good terminal performance from softpoints giving better penetration. Risking twice that? $150 if you take the simple route leaving the Henry forend on, (This for the extra handling and care packaging to protect the wood finish.). The Lil Gun and AA1680 are max loads from my searching tho I've seen several claim you can't get enough AA1680 in the case to overload it. About the only .357 or .38 spl ammo available now is the pricey 30-bucks-for-a-box-of-20 defensive loads. Would love a new one, in particular one of the Henry brand as the finishes are absolutely beautiful. I always attempt to stay in the mid range of the reload manual. As long as components are available, I can handload for it. Slip Top 50 Red Ammo Box 38 /357 Mag /357 Max /38 ACP /38 Super. Back in 05, I bought an Interarms marked Rossi model 92SR off of the used rack at a LGS for $200. .357 Rem. I had only seen photos (prints?) FILE PHOTO Check out our website and use our Facebook li Taylor's & Co 1892 Alaskan Black Takedown 16 inch .357Mag Lever Action. by AJMD429 Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:25 pm, Post Lil Gun starting at 26 grains and worked up to as much as 30 grains gives top velocities in 24 barrels and good velocities in shorter barrels. Good thought though. The resulting airspace does no good. T/Cs Contender pistol was also a natural for this cartridge, and it was a popular chambering. We ballistics types all know sad stories about cartridges that showed great potential but failed shortly after leaving the launch pad. Returns MUST be left with the transferring dealer. I would think it would beat the .357 Maximum, honestly. Manufacturer Cimarron Firearms br brModel 1892 Lever Action Riflebr brSKU AS621br brCaliber .357 Magnumbr brCapacity 10 Roundsbr brBarrel Length  20 Oct CIM CA2903 CIM UBERTI 1894 RIFLE 38-55 26" Brand: CIMARRON FIREARMS CO Item Number: CIM CA2903 UPC: 814230101112 Cimarron Firearms, the leader in authentic replicas from America Glock #32 (357 Sig) -- #13 rounds magazine -- #3 Magazines and loader only! While I do want one in .357 for ammo sharing with my handguns Id be open to one in .327 Federal as well. Surprised no one has mentioned Smith and Wesson 627 Performance Center 8 shot in 357. Because the title of the article is Five great not Five cheap.. *We Never share your email without your permission. Made in 1983, serial 600-02396 has a 10.5-inch barrel, blade front sight, adjustable rear sight, transfer bar and wood grips. Problem is, because of the pandemic, and an election year, like all the ammo, there isnt any to be had, in the Pacific Northwest anyway. No mention of primers was made, but I'd expect they used Large Pistol or Large Pistol Magnum, but you might have to e-mail them to find out. Jim Rhodes Greenville, Al. They also make a valid home defense rifle AND a great truck gun, to keep the Karens and Kens from whining ASSAULT RIFLE. by groschen1936 Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:30 am, Post Due to the additional costs of internet sales, shipping, etc., our internet pricing may vary from our In-Store price. I can probably name a couple dozen powders that will work in the .357. Buy 357 Maximum Brass Pistol Cases 95pcs Mixed Brass 357 Max: GunBroker is the largest seller of Reloading Supplies Ammunition Reloading All: 974082394. . I REALLY wish Mossberg would make that hideous SPX Tactical in .357. That stands for International Handgun Metallic Silhouette Association. Rossi 92 is one of the best purchases Ive ever made. Long throated .357 MAGnum barrels let you create space in the MAGnum case for the same powder charge rates used in factory .350 Legend ammo, 21 to 23 gr.! Moku Manu, Hawai'i. Jun 17, 2016. With higher-performance loads, the .357 carbine almost delivers real rifle ballistics. Remington and Ruger eventually . I dont live in big bear country. Joseph Von Benedikt visits with Aaron Oelger from Hodgdon about the unprecedented demand on the shooting supply industry. A World Record Attempt and everyone is out at the range shooting and practicing. It may not display this or other websites correctly. . Now its the way it should have been from the factory. If you're gonna be stupid ya gotta be tough-. I have one, and they are very nice, but spendy, and very hard to come by. Rechambering to bottle neck cartridges with additional for handling and converting extractor for rimless cases, from $205. The receiver was warped slightly outward, he pressed it back into line. You are using an out of date browser. In May I went to Utah and took my brother, his son, and a handful of their friends out shooting. Best of both worlds. If you hand-load long bullets that seat deeply in the case, you may need a longer expander plug to avoid crumpling the case. While visiting Rugers New Hampshire facility in 1985, I learned that when the company built the California Highway Patrol Commemorative model of the No. Really puts a pop in the round. It was simply the .357 case lengthened to 1.60 and used the heavier bullets of 158 grains to as much as 200 grains. "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools" The Apostle Paul in Romans 1:22 . The winchester representative claimed 2300 fps with a 150gr bullet out of a 20 inch barrel. Welcome to the Leverguns.Com Forum. Hard to beat real world experience which is mainly what this site consists of. 16.5" threaded barrel (1/2x28). We show you how. The cartridge made its debut in 1983 in the Ruger New Model Blackhawk single-action revolver. Browning created the 1892 to compete with the Marlin 1888, and according to legend, completed the work in two weeks. Finally needed cash and sold it to a collector of old west guns. Either will give hunting accuracy better than a big percentage of "varmint rifles! by Old Ironsights Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:43 pm, Post You can also get your lever action fix without breaking the bank on ammunition .357 Remington is cheaper than .30-30 and without breaking your shoulder, as a .45-70 will make you black rifle boys soil yourselves and cry for your mommas. Most of the famous Hatfield-McCoy feud was fought with lever guns. The .357 Magnum is considerably more powerful than its parent round the .38 Special. The one i have now has bllard rifling which is accurate with jacketed or lead bullets. Some loads use bullets of .358 for jacketed and .359 for lead. rounds much more than the .22s. The 357 out-paces the 44-40 and 32-20 by a fair margin. The Winchester Model 1873 is an iconic rifle commonly referred to as "The Gun That Won the West.". So naturally, I'm looking at different options and trying to figure out what has the longest range. Of commonly available rifles, 444 marlin seems to be near the top of the heap, ballistics wise. Cartridge is a mite better now than 3 years ago, IMO. 40-50 Sharps 1 7/8" and the 40-60 Maynard 2.20" can be made by blowing out 303 British or 30-40 Krag cases and cutting to length. by bgmkithaca Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:55 am, Post I told them if they were so worried about reloading they can have my brass. Re: Reloading the 357 MAXIMUM. As they are harder to find, I switched to PPU 158 JHP with little change for sighting in. No, the article actually shows period photos of guys wearing cross slings with clips on the end that attached to the rifle, so they could let it dangle by their legs. No turnstyle safety on top of the bolt to remove. Or the new Marlin Dark series for a little more money. So for me, the perfect single-caliber combo would be .357 Mag wheelgun at the hip holster, and lever gun such as one of those shown in the article above. You get the best of both the classic function of a lever gun with modern improvements. GunBroker.com Forums. Because of this, many hunters are realizing the potential of the cartridge for hunting medium to large game. I really do want a .357 levergunbut Im perfectly confident in my .30-30. It is a tough call since their chamber work and mine are so, so close to the same. The .357 Maximum was introduced into commercial production as a joint-venture by Remington Arms Company and Ruger in 1983 as a new chambering for the Ruger Blackhawk. Thats relevance! JerryB II Corinthians 3:17, Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. Joseph Von Benedikt shows his custom 500 and how well it shoots. My all-time favorite .357 rifle is still the IMI Timber Wolf pump.