A woman convicted in the 1994 murders of a Catasauquawoman and the victim's 3-month-old son was back in court on Tuesday. Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged in, Tate reportedly had medical consultation in Dubai about a serious health condition before arrest, Find your bookmarks in your Independent Premium section, under my profile, Andrew Tates team claims he has a dark spot, most likely a tumour. That, as well as measurements of the babys head (revealing the infant to be of a more advanced age) very much suggest they were killed some considerable time after what was believed at her trial. But I suppose you havent a clue about that. Thats my life.. Andrew F Katrinak was born on month day 1882, at birth place. At 4 a.m. Wednesday morning, several dozen of Rorrer's relatives and friends surrounded the courthouse, said Capt. She made Joanne kill the baby PLEASE. Just one example. Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. And Andrews explanation of how the intruder got in through the basement door seemed contrived, according to Grube, who gave an interview to Wrong Man, a 2020 true-crime docuseries from the Starz network, which produced two episodes called The Hang Up about the Rorrer case. Weak wages. Joanns gun and beating wounds were obvious, but the baby died a less violent (but just as horrible) death with no clear signs. Shes extremely, extremely happy with the baby. State police and the Philadelphia division of the FBI appealed to the public for leads. Andrew currently pays a reported 250-a-week for a state-subsidised 30-room mansion complete with 98 acres of land and a swimming pool - and is not keen to leave it after 20 years. This FBI report, of the hairs being unable to yield a DNA result because of the absent root material, was never revealed to Rorrers defence. I would think if she would have an passed they definitely wouldve started looking somewhere else but there was just too much evidence against her anyway so.. and with forensics the way they are today. They lived together in Salisbury Township, Pa., for about two years, but they . Dont know from where youve got your information about this case my guess is youve been watching a lot of those documentaries which revel in showing the case in a disgracefully biased manner. And the obvious answer is Ill tell you why (which really is common knowledge). But then again I havent actually SEEN the evidence. You seem to have a fragile ego. which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory.. And I have absolutely no sympathy. But none of those charges ever stuck. And the fact that Patricia called Andrew even after he married someone else didnt mean she was still carrying a torch for him, according to one of her friends. As for him, yes, it looks like the first suspect, but if he had alibis, quite hard to accuse of actually doing it, and I understand it was a pretty solid one. Did Patricia ever take a lie detector test? Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. And its argued that it has been and dismissed as insignificant or irrelevant. Great catch. After the King told the Duke of York of planned budget cuts to royal funds, the disgraced royal has since refused to leave his 30-bedroom Royal Lodge in Windsor. Stevie J Further to my previous comment, I should add the following.
Veronica Katrinak Obituary - Death Notice and Service Information What evidence is there she actually left the state? Andrew J Katrinak, 68. I dont think so. Another glaring omission is Early in the investigation, the police in their zeal to add some substance to their fanciful theory about the gun used in the crime, did a thorough search of Rorrers back yard/garden (where they did target practice) looking for spent shells and bullets, in order to do a forensic comparison with the bullet recovered from the victim. And for you to even ask why documentaries are biased, makes me wonder if you have the ability to determine fact from fiction! He was born in Bethlehem son of the late Martin. It then makes light of the fact that the car in which the (incriminating) hairs were found was absent of any blood. Oh wait, sorry, you werent there. Andrew currently pays a reported 250-a-week for a state-subsidised 30-room mansion complete with 98 acres of land and a swimming pool - and is not keen to leave it after 20 years. In fact it clearly shows how short you are on all the details surrounding this case. Your details from Facebook will be used to provide you with tailored content, marketing and ads in line with our Privacy Policy. Ten months after Joann died he murdered another woman (who looks just like her) and her baby, as well. How do you explain the authorities finding .22mm shell casings at her home during the search warrant. Youre right about my comments on other sites, but those seem to have an abundance of hate-mongers who feel no need to mince their words hence my retorts to those. Very similar. Im sure shes innocent adds nothing other than to tell us your state of mind! There was a blood-stained fingernail and hair found on the victims body, and even though (in Keith Morrisons Dateline documentary) the Asst. She definitely did it. Nailed? Personal details about Andrew include: political affiliation is unknown; ethnicity is Caucasian; and religious views are listed as unknown. Over the years, she has been charged with breaking and entering, intoxication, cruelty to animals and larceny in Davidson, Randolph, Gaston, Anson and Forsyth counties, said Detective Lt. Tony Roberson of the Davidson County Sheriff's Department. (Nope. ``I told her I would see that her horses was tended to.'. So lets get going on the recap of the Forensic Files episode A Woman Scorned, along with extra information drawn from internet research: Joann Marie OConnor was born on Oct. 11, 1968, the youngest of Sarah and David OConnors four children. You can cancel at any time. With Andrew unwilling or unable to pay the going rate, likely to be thousands of pounds per week, Charles has decided to kick the Sussexes out of the five-bedroom Frogmore Cottage and offer the keys to his younger brother, who is resisting. Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. At one point Interpol had an extremely similar case in which an individual convinced a friend, who had been his sexual partner several times in the past, to kill the woman he had a baby with, on the grounds that the child is not his and he does not love her but cannot leave because everyone would accuse him of abandoning his child and his family name would be affected. Trash-talking ex. ``Some people just don't know how to let go,' Hege said. After researching this case more thoroughly, I stand corrected about the time it took the jury to return a verdict. If you have ever met or been in a relationship with a narcissist, the former partner being with a more young and attractive-looking person would make them go off. His wife's vehicle was discovered in a parking lot 100 yards away from their house. A few fries short of a Happy Meal, that one. Authorities said the 3-month-old died either of suffocation or of exposure while lying on his mother's stomach. Although the prosecution used it as evidence that she was trying to create a false alibi, it actually sounded more like Patricia was simply trying to nail down the facts he had already asserted to her. The fact that shortly after Joanns funeral, Andy reconnected with an old friend, a woman who happened to live about 4 miles from where the bodies were found. This is the most ridiculous take ever! Forensic tests suggested the hair found in the car and at the murder scene came from Patricia. Andrew J Katrinak, age 68, Drake, CO . Then you claim this is an opinion. She had a suitcase packed, Devine said. She had money put aside. All Rights Reserved. M.L. According to Pennsylvania State Police, Rorrer met Andrew Katrinak, the husband and father of the victims, in 1986. Her jealousy and rage because Joann told her to not contact her husband set her off. The police considered the possibility that Joann ran away, a theory disputed by her family. The missing hairs probably got destroyed in testing.. thats how they test them.. and reports are wrong all the time.
Andrew Joseph Katrinak (1926-2015) - Find a Grave Memorial The news comes after a Romanian court rejected appeals from Mr Tates legal team against a 30-day extension in jail earlier this week. The two kept in touch by telephone, and in 1991, Rorrer briefly sought refuge at Katrinak's home in Catasauqua after being assaulted by another boyfriend. Sad discovery. Living on the edge (literally! He said she did own a firearm, with its serial numbers filed off. The 5-foot-9-inch-tall Patricia was physically strong, no match for 5-foot-4-inch Joann.
NO SIGN OF MISSING CATASAUQUA WOMAN - The Morning Call What has that to do with the point youre trying to make? Andrew also stated that when Pat called and Joann answered she had instructed her not to call again because they were married and they were happy. I find it weird that youre going to kill a woman just because she hung up on you and maybe tell you some shitty world because you call like an ex. I would suggest you take the time to read the book or, at least watch the documentaries which STICK TO THE FACTS, and then comment. Meanwhile, the case of the missing mother and baby turned into colossal news across the U.S. and internationally. The Irish-Italian girl had full, fluffy dark hair, olive skin, and a pretty face. Anyway, there are thousands of people who differ from that belief, that is why there is so much controversy surrounding this case, and that is why there have been numerous convicted people in the past whove been exonerated on appeal. An infant was lying face down on her stomach. Judge Douglas Reichley heard arguments on the motion for post-conviction relief but did not issue a timeline for making a ruling, according to the Lehigh County District Attorney's Office. ", The much-faster-than-expected economic recovery thats followed the easing of the coronavirus pandemic has produced several encouraging develo. And this was never disclosed to Rorrers Defence. no blood, no finger-prints and no soil evidence it was as if the car had been wiped clean stated the attending investigating police officer!That itself has to be considered highly suspicious and cast doubt on the hair evidence which WAS found. ``As good as she is with people and animals, I just can't believe it.'. Im quite happy to accept that ANYONE who makes a TV documentary makes it for money. The district attorney's office dismissed as offensiveNeely's implications on the evidence, according to the newspaper's report.
Andrew Tate's leaked 'medical record' suggests influencer has suspected Prior to his incarceration, Mr Tates had a medical consultation in Dubai about a serious health condition, his team said. A lot of these documentaries feature most of the theories suggested by the cops and prosecution which were most damaging to her case, but not a single person to substantiate Rorrers side, or to challenge their versions. That is not just a circumstantial case, that is both circumstantial and forensic, and it is pretty air tight. ``She told me she was praying about it.'. Men who murder are conventional, women are sensational, posits the Worldwide Womens Criminal Justice Network. Ballistics experts determined that a bullet removed from Joann Katrinak's body was fired from a .22-caliber pistol similar to one Rorrer owned. His hair (back in 94-95) was dirty blonde and roughly 8 inches long. Rorrers defenders remind me of a case in my home town There was a killer who confessed, was caught on video committing the murder and was seen committing the crime by an eye witness. (Lehighvalleylive.com file photo). There is a term in law called balance of probabilities, which basically means that guilt is assigned when there is a preponderance of evidence that would lead a rational person to conclude that the person did it. This woman killed and is where she belongs! I wonder, did they ever perform a DNA test on the baby, to verify paternity? Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports, The Lindbergh Kidnapping: Forensic Files Lost Episode, Dawn Fehring: A Missionary Dies Too Young, Joanne Chambers and Paula Nawrocki: Strange Lesson. His father confirmed his alibi that they were doing construction work together, putting an addition on the house of friends Tom and Kathy Holschwander, at the time of Joanns disappearance. No way for 4 months, that deceased baby would still be resting across the mothers chest. And while youre on that list, you can be happy in the knowledge youre not in rarefied company. He added: No official diagnosis has been confirmed and he is in good shape and is staying strong. Not normal folks obsessed ones do. They depict scenes which are pure speculation or exaggeration or present scenes, which in fact were only theories mentioned at her trial. She didnt kill those two boys and TX knows, but they made too much noise about it, hence this is probably the real reason that Darlie hasnt been put to death 24-25 yrs later. Why not question some of this evidence? Microconidia DNA, as long as the strand is one inch long they can pull the DNA from that. She failed miserably to convince me, or anyone else who mattered, of her innocence. One of the hairs had magically developed root material to enable that. Today, Patricia Lynne Rorrer resides in State Correctional Institute at Muncy, a medium and maximum security facility that has the highest rate of cancer of all prisons in Pennsylvania, according to a story from northcentralpa.com. Justice is about uncovering the truth. Play it now! Theodore Kohuth, the baby on top of the dead mother. DA readily agreed they did not belong to Rorrer, was happy to admit they were never submitted for analysis. Youre so fixated with her guilt, youre unable to see other factors that show this case to be a disgraceful travesty. Hege described Rorrer as savvy and street-smart and similar to other horse lovers he knows. Not gender neutral. Pat will spend the rest of her natural life in prison where people like her belong. I would bet MONEY that the first baby born to Patricia didnt die of SIDS. They had a son, Alex Martin, in August of 1994. Well, at least you managed some sense there when you say that, especially when you take into account the amount of evidence and witnesses which were withheld from the Defence and what appears to be a clear case of evidence-tampering. Another inaccuracy in this is, they state the jury took SIX HOURS to return a verdict, when in fact it took less than TWO HOURS. Its nine minutes into the video.
Patricia Rorrer: An Update - Forensic Files Now Ironically its you who is basing your view on second-hand information, as you were not in court. There is so much in your comment with which I can take issue, but Ill try to keep to the salient points. Pfeiffer and Burke claimed that police Sgt. She only spoke on the phone with him a couple of times a year; when she called that last time, she didnt even know if Andys child was a boy or a girl, and the baby was almost 4 months old. Were suppose to ignore the actual forensic evidence and forensic opinions because we were told that a cop overheard her claiming she confessed? So you see, MY STATE OF MIND is based on factual information. If not, how could Andrew have obtained samples of Patricias hair if they apparently didnt meet up in person after Andrews marriage? Very soon after, the original hairs (in glass slides) were sent to the FBI again. Perhaps she used more than one gun using another/others for the target shooting than the one she killed with (and others shot with her?) Narcissistic and violent tendencies are very common.
Defiant Prince Andrew seen smiling amid royal eviction clash with King As for an epilogue on ex-flame Andrew Katrinak, he has moved to Colorado and kept a low profile since the trial ended. Her daughter, Andrea Bruner, 14, baby-sat for Rorrer's baby daughter last fall. I dont think so. As for the murder weapon, police didnt find a .22 caliber pistol on Patricias property, but an ex-boyfriend claimed that she owned one and it would always jam after one shot. They did this case on Reasonable Doubt last night. Tragedy also touched Patricias life. THE COPS SET HER UP. Out of the two hairs found in the car only one had enough root to perform a DNA match which did match but police waited to arrest Patricia until a highly advanced and accurate match could be made, which took a year. Even if there were some minor flaws or discrepancies in the investigation, thats normal. I mean the husband did do some shady things maybe he was involved? ALISON BOSHOFF: As Broadchurch star Andrew Buchan and Leila Farzad become a real-life item while sexual electricity crackles between them in new BBC drama, did an earlier role of his give a . You, however, consider your ill-informed opinion superior to them not only that, you then go to great lengths to belittle them. The District Attorney got this one right. Rorrer called Myers collect from the jail Tuesday afternoon. Hege said Rorrer's baby is with her mother, Patricia Chambers of Lexington. Accused of two murders, she will be extradited to Pennsylvania today. Shes attracted the help of writer Tammy Mal (full name Tammy Malinowski OReilly), author of Convenient Suspect, a book about the case. He lived in 1928, at address, Connecticut. If her husband was going to do that Im sure he wouldve done it in a totally different way! Theres also the matter of a woman who suddenly remembered she saw Joann with another man at a Food Mart store five days after the disappearance. To do this we will link your MailOnline account with your Facebook account. This woman was not innocent, but she is very good at manipulating people into feeling sorry for her. If in the woods in a rural area, no animal, rodent or insect touched those bodies? Joann would have fought for her life the person that did this would have had marks on them from a fight! Those that think that Patricia is innocent are simply groping at straws. At 10:30 p.m., Andrew reported his wife missing.
Patricia Rorrer: An Update - Forensic Files Now Stop defending her when she is guilty!!!!! If you subscribe to Hulu and upgrade to Starz (theres a free one-week trial offer), you can stream the Wrong Man episodes about Patricia Rorrer. The article also notes that most inmates earn around 19 cent an hour at their jobs and must pay $5 each time they need medical attention or medicine. It would appear you are reading all sorts of interpretations into my comments especially that I have a fragile ego, dented by others whove responded to me! Advocates for her innocence complain of hype surrounding the case. You can choose on each post whether you would like it to be posted to Facebook. Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. And this doesnt apply to your opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. They dont need to make money??? (even though hes married and has a baby) Who does that?!! Thats all for this post. Officers escort Andrew Tate, centre, and his brother Tristan Tate to the Court of Appeal in Bucharest. If Patricia had injuries it wouldve only been to her hands and she wasnt questioned right away which is also the reason she took Joanne elsewhere to kill her so her body wouldnt be found for a while and she would have time to return home. All this talk about hairs and other DNA just seems to keep deflecting away from the gun itself. Tommy Lynn Sells admitted to killing a 9-10 old boy in Indiana I think and the mom Julie (cant remember her last name) was jailed mainly due to the ex-husband (father of her son) testified and said things that werent true.
Andrew Tate 'seriously ill' as leaked medical record hints at lung He said his heart drops a couple of feet every time it rings. No way they laid there for 4 months!!!! For the past two years, Patricia Lynne Rorrer was a watched woman. Mr Freeman, Why are youre rude about others who disagree with your OPINION (including jury and appeal judges)? His doctors have requested that he returns to Dubai for further testing. Prince Andrew has offered to manage some of the prestigious Royal estates as part of his negotiations to leave his Royal mansion, Royal insiders have claimed that the King said 'there is no chance' of Andrew being allowed to manage the Royal estates, The Duke of York had offered to take over the management of Balmoral Castle - his late mother's beloved summer residence. They had 7 children: Eleanor Dorothy Thornberg (born Katrinak) and 6 other children. she didnt need to . You people are fighting a losing cause! Veronica Barbara Katrinak. Especially mice! At 6 a.m. on June 24, 1997, police arrested Patricia at her modest house in Linwood, North Carolina, and took her back to Pennsylvania. They retested hair from the car in 2008 with updated new technology. ANDREW Tate has complained "they won't let me leave" in another whinge from prison after claiming he is suffering from a "serious health condition". Patty was soooo obsessed with Andy that she moved away to North Carolina some 5 years before this happened, right? The person who killed Joann is currently serving a life sentence because 10 months after Joann and Alex died, he killed another woman (who bore a striking resemblance to Joann) and her baby. John If you feel it so necessary to post a comment, please at least try to keep it original, because theres nothing sensible with your juvenile attempt using my words. Even though Joanne was supposed to take her mother-in-law for Christmas shopping, she never showed up. And she would just call out of the blue., According to the Free Patricia Rorrer page on Facebook:I called him to let him know that I was going to the USA finals for a horse show. Animals would have for sure. DNA also doesnt lie. And about the only thing from your comment with which I can agree, is you saying thats not proof theyre right in reference to their verdict. Court records show she is incarcerated in the Lehigh County Jail. To prove it 110% rather than just 99% I dont know why they wouldnt retest the hair fibers etc. The views expressed in the contents above are those of our users and do not necessarily reflect the views of MailOnline. Omg so well put! Formerly of the Phillipsburg and High Bridge areas, Rorrer was living in Linwood, North Carolina, when . The fat cow is guilty as hell and I hope she continues to have the shit kicked out of her in prison every day of her useless life. Username. Whoever writes this amateurish swill should get a real life, andsa real job. Maybe then you will see the wrongful conviction! Rest in peace Joann and Alex. 2023 Advance Local Media LLC. Patricias defenders also say Andrew Katrinak staged the scene at his house by prying the door and cutting the phone line. And dance instructor William Jarrett couldnt remember whether she attended his dance class at the club the night of Joanns disappearance. Am I supposed to believe that she was still so enraged a week later, that she drove almost 10 hours, in a conspicuous van with a bad U-joint, to kill this woman and her baby? But defense lawyer Robert Pfeiffer said that plenty of evidence supported Patricias innocence. Ive heard she gets to go out to LUNCH and this broad is in prison for murdering her husband Russ Stager? Susan Wright is out of prison after killing her husband in TX. All 3 of her alibis were lies, DNA tied her to the murder, there was no sexual assault, she had a violent past, was obsessed with Andy, and was caught lying about owning a gun, which coincidentally jammed after firing once and shell cases were found on her property. It was just assumed to be crib death. She and Andrew Katrinak shared a house in Salisbury Township in the mid-1980s, when he was a self-employed contractor and she was a real-estate agent. And even prosecutor Michael McIntyre, who wrote the book Hair Trigger about the case, acknowledged to Keith Morrison that it was a little odd that the police found blood on the hairs in Joanns car but nowhere else in the vehicle.
Woman Held in Catasauqua Killings * Andrew Katrinak'S Ex-girlfriend Why? Their bodies were found nearly four months later. The prosecution alleged that after the murder, Patricia drove Joanns car to McCartys parking lot and backed it into a parking space. Ive found that in nearly every case, those who are firmly of the opinion shes guilty have an extremely limited knowledge of the case theyve watched one (or perhaps more) of the documentaries which make absolutely no attempt to show anything thats in Rorrers favour (theres plenty, if one bothers to look), and worse, revel in exaggerated and speculative scenes, some of which were never even mentioned at her trial. Its nothing short of a feeble stab hoping to impress but really amounts to splitting hairs, or to put it another way, hot air with no substance. This article is little more than fiction. U.S.M.C. Claps! For this week, I looked into the defenders reasoning as well as Patricias whereabouts today. She hasnt, she didnt get a hard enough sentence. So much of it, it would take all day to elaborate here. Clifford Freeman, were you a juror? They depict scenes which are pure speculation or exaggeration or present scenes, which in fact were only theories mentioned at her trial. The entrance to the Lehigh County Courthouse at 455 Hamilton St. in Allentown is seen in November 2011. He helped her take horses to day care centers, where she would take photographs of children with the horses. Her mother was married to my uncle. They released a poster of Joann and Alex, noting that the baby had almond-shaped blue eyes, weighed 18 pounds, and was circumcised. Combination locks. You should be ashamed of yourself. ALL IT THEN BECOMES IS A SOURCE OF INACCURACIES AND SPECULATION, WHICH ONLY SERVES TO BOLSTER THOSE WITH THAT MENTALITY AND PERPETUATE THE LACK OF TRUTH. The 36-year-old former kickboxer and his brother have been jailed in . The additions come as KFC recently removed some menu items, including wings, popcorn chicken and cookies, to make room for new additions.